season 3, episode 4

Welcome to Musicians Tip Jar where we talk about musicians and money. We continue to find ways to simplify this podcast to get you straight to the point. I’m Chris Webb, joined by my co-host and the guy who makes the sharpest points, Dave Tamkin.

Quote of the week

“If you are will to keep showing up and adjust…and continue to make tiny tweaks, in two years you won’t recognize yourself” -Eddie Pinero

From the motivational videos Eddie Pinero creates on YouTube, to his podcast episodes, to the stages he speaks on all over the world, Eddie offers a blueprint to those looking for an edge as they navigate their day-to-day lives. With over 200 million total streams, his use of powerful spoken word and beautiful imagery is a reminder to many that they are always one decision away from a totally different life.

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Episode: 64

Today we will give you a chance to simplify your life so that you can see what it is you really want clearer. Our guest Eddie Pinero will explain how.

Eddie Pinero is a motivational speaker who has seen an explosion of success through his Youtube channel and podcast. He offers a blueprint to those looking for an edge as they navigate their day-to-day lives. With over 200 million total streams, his use of powerful spoken word and beautiful imagery is a reminder to many that they are always one decision away from a totally different life.

Chris Webb: Let's jump right in with our interview with Eric Pinero, international speaker YouTuber and founder of your world within Eddie Pinero Welcome to musicians tip.

Eddie Pinero: A press day. Great to be with you guys.

Chris Webb: Man, you know, I was trying to remember how I came across you. I know it was on Spotify. These are probably valuable things for you to hear too, because you kind of like to know how people are finding you. But I I dig a lot into podcasts that are stretching the way I think. And when when I found yours, I immediately just sat there listening. And there's something about the way that you present your ideas, which are very universal, yet very specific. And they just, I every time I finish one of your episodes, I walk away feeling better.

Eddie Pinero: That makes me so happy, man. That's awesome.

Chris Webb: you know coming up with our questions for you today. I wanted to start because somewhere in your in the hours of podcasts that I've listened to, you went through the years without consistent income. And I read that you were worried about making ends meet too. How were you involved in the music industry during those years? And what was the catalyst that launched you into this motivational speaker and creator role?

Eddie Pinero: It definitely wasn't something that was methodical or drawn out. It was really like following your intuition. Like I always referenced that that famous JRR Tolkien quote, not all who wander are lost. Because if I couldn't find the strength within myself to do that, I wouldn't have uncovered you know, that intersection of what I love and what adds value to the world. It's scary to put yourself out there without validation. And there was a year year and a half of that. I mean, it was a long time, or it just felt like scary to get up. Because I didn't have that certainty. And so for me like it it just stopped me at any point and I'll give you a quick 101 is, you know, I was doing the corporate thing, and I love storytelling, I love writing music, that was just kind of doing it on the side making like acoustic EPs and my little home studio and stuff like that,

I was Boston, Massachusetts. And there's a nice, you know, there's a nice music scene there. And so, you know, basically, I got to the point where I'm like, I'm gonna pull the plug on this and just do it full time. And eventually I did in so I was playing, like, you know, acoustic shows around Boston kind of writing and producing for other local and when I say producing, I mean, I use that loosely, like very self taught kind of, like, you know, in Pro Tools, and, you know, making things with people in the area and just having a blast. But, as you can imagine, like, it gets to a point where the money starts to dry out, and I didn't have that substantial, you know, nothing coming in. It wasn't good enough, probably musically to make that happen, either.

Chris Webb: Who would you compare yourself with? Artists wise?

Eddie Pinero: Oh, man, that's a tough one. You know, no matter how hard I try, I have a dashboard, the voice like dashboard confessional. So I mean, it was it was singer songwriter, stuff, my my heroes, John Mayer, but I don't even want to under that name. We weren't in the same ballpark. But, and yeah, I got to the point where it's like, you know, funds drying up. I don't really know exactly where this is going. And I wanted to, you know, go back to that corporate world and get that safety, particularly financially, like at least I've always got to know what I'm supposed to be doing. And that was when I continued to, like, explore and pick up cameras and blog and storytel and use music in different ways.

Chris Webb: Have you always been a writer at the same time? Somewhat?

Eddie Pinero: I didn't know. Like, I would say now that I'm 35. Like, I would say that's my strength hands down, just naturally even yeah, I've developed it over the past decade. But like, I had no idea that that was my thing.

Chris Webb: So it wasn't like your your hobby in high school, either. There wasn't like creative writing classes that were your favorite or anything like that,

Eddie Pinero: No, no, I had no idea. You know, and I took English classes in high school, but they were just like anything at school, it's like, it becomes a benchmark, you got to get an A or B and move on. There was nothing like fun or exhilarating or freeing about it. But yeah, I mean, that was that was kind of that inflection point where it was like, You're gonna go back to that take the easy road and be unhappy for a large portion of your life, are you going to figure it out. And so I started writing speeches, sort of coaching myself through the moment, and using components of what I love to do. So for the first year, I mean, I was composing the background music to my speeches, I was writing them. In a lot of cases, I was running around with the camera to get visual, doing all these things that made it feel like art to me, and I love doing it. And, you know, which is the second part was helping people, you know, I was getting emails back saying, dude, this helped me think about things differently. I was stalking this, you know, opened up some doors for me. So that was a lightbulb moment, right? Where it's like, I love doing this. And it's adding value to people. I've arrived. Let's go. This is it.

Chris Webb: Were you someone who is interested in like, the self help kind of section of, you know, I can so I'm just gonna say like, for myself, like, I love giving inspiration, you know, it's in the more of the, you know, within context of the of the educational setting. But, as a kid, I was always, I always thought self help was like the section of Barnes and Nobles you didn't go into. Now, it's like, the only place I go when I go in there. And so like for you, where was it that you all of a sudden, were feeling this strong connection to that this whole industry of motivation?

Eddie Pinero: Yeah, I mean, I've always loved the idea of personal development. I've always been, you know, sort of intrigued by it. You know, and the psychological part of it. I mean, it's just so interesting to me, it's so empowering. My question was, how was I going to bring that about in a way that in other words, I want it to be a journey where people are learning with me, which I think is why I enjoy what I'm doing and why it adds value to people. You know, a lot of self help. Even to this day, personal development rubs me the wrong way because it sounds preachy, and speaks as though the world is black and white, and there are boxes and there's right and wrong and this is the key to success and this is not. And I just think, you know, life is a buffet, you pick and choose the things that add value to you. And so, you know me doing my thing. It's like, Hey, guys, I got my ass kicked here. But here's the lesson, right? And here's how it might apply to you. Because yeah, I'm a YouTuber or speaker, whatever you want to call it. You're you're doing your thing, but there's so much overlap, you know, through that storytelling, it just creates a place where, yeah, it's personal development, because we're talking about life and battling adversity. To me, it just gives it a more artful nice feel. And that's always what I'm trying to go for.

Dave Tamkin: You can definitely hear that in your speech, just your timing and your meter. And the way you approach each word, you are approaching it as a song, as a song writer would to tell a story or to express emotion or to get a point across. So that's what drew me to just just speeches was, you could you could hear the music behind it.

Eddie Pinero: No, I appreciate it. And I think I think that's right on the mark. Like if there's a time and I've experimented over the past decade with so many different types of delivery, where it's like, it's so close to me that line when the music schooling and the cadence is there that like I've dabbled in, like spoken word and created some, some almost rap style videos, and I love doing it, but it's like, okay, that might be a little too much. Like reel it back in a tiny, it's just there's so much overlap. It's telling the story in an emotive way, which is what music is like, human beings are not rational. We're emotional. You know? And that's if you can tap that, you know, I just watched random Tiktok talking about a backstreet boys song. You guys might have seen this where it's like, the worst don't Chris, that's Chris.

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